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why wasn't this memo released to the public by the obama administration? >> the obama administration is doing everything in its power to keep every single aspect of this disastrous and horrific policy of assassinating people in other countries. they're doing everything they can to keep it hidden. >> assassinating? you're saying -- you're saying assassinations are taking place? is that what you call it? >> yes, that's what i'm calling it. with people around the world who have not been tried by a jury, there has been no evidence against them, and we are guessing, remember this, we are guessing this and accusing them of things that we have absolutely no firm evidence about. i was in pakistan. i spent a lot of time talking to people, ed. we've talked about this. it's heartbreaking on a moral level, and it's absolutely disastrous on a security level. >> i'm surprised that there are veteran senators that aren't troubled by this. joan walsh, where is the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, pat leahy. it seems he would take great interest in what is unfold
why wasn't this memo released to the public by the obama administration? >> the obama administration is doing everything in its power to keep every single aspect of this disastrous and horrific policy of assassinating people in other countries. they're doing everything they can to keep it hidden. >> assassinating? you're saying -- you're saying assassinations are taking place? is that what you call it? >> yes, that's what i'm calling it. with people around the world who have...
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i hope the obama administration will reconsider his nomination." joining me now, more to talk about this, "washington post" op-ed columnist, dana milbank. dana, good to have you here. and don't we have senator john mccain, and we know how this went down, several other republicans were very tough through that confirmation hearing, but they said yesterday they would not support a filibuster of hagel's confirmation, as threatened by senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. so would it be historic, or do you think that it's really possible? >> to actually proceed with a filibuster? >> to proceed with a filibuster, yeah? >> it's a theoretical possibility. it would be such an extraordinary escalation of the wars here in washington, which are already completely out of control. so, yes, they could do it. but just the very notion of them filibustering, one of their former republican colleagues, and not because they found him unfit to serve for some personal reason or related to his capacity to serve, but because they don't like his policies. and guess what
i hope the obama administration will reconsider his nomination." joining me now, more to talk about this, "washington post" op-ed columnist, dana milbank. dana, good to have you here. and don't we have senator john mccain, and we know how this went down, several other republicans were very tough through that confirmation hearing, but they said yesterday they would not support a filibuster of hagel's confirmation, as threatened by senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. so would...
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i support what the obama administration is doing here. but it gs to show just how difficult, how messy and for when the bush administration would make the point those senior leaders would say, it's difficult for, perhaps, some to understand what we're dealing with when we talk about this level. all natural security decisions are serious. but when we are talking about this kind of threat, we have to make at times very messy and sometimes uncomfortable and sometimes questionable decisions. so i think my point is democrats seem to now think back about how they conducted themselves and the questions they raised about bush administration tactics. i didn't raise those questions as aggressively as some of my friends did, but it's important everyone take a step back and a breather here, particularly democrats. >>> new details on the endearing political relationship between dwight eisenhower and richard nixon. >> that was a straight one, those two. >> yes. our next guest explores the two iconic leaders. >>> also, in the aftermath of the great rece
i support what the obama administration is doing here. but it gs to show just how difficult, how messy and for when the bush administration would make the point those senior leaders would say, it's difficult for, perhaps, some to understand what we're dealing with when we talk about this level. all natural security decisions are serious. but when we are talking about this kind of threat, we have to make at times very messy and sometimes uncomfortable and sometimes questionable decisions. so i...
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the obama administration's policy of targeting americans comes under attack on capitol hill. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. >> the president's pick for cia takes a grilling over the targeted killings of american citizens. >> people are reacting to a lot of falsehoods that are out there. >> reporter: tonight, the man who broke this story, michael eyes ackoff of abc news on the revelations for the brennan confirmation hearing. first it was virginia. now michigan is flirting with state-mandated vaginal probes. there's a late update on this story. i'll talk war on women with terry o'neil and actress martha plimpton. >>> senator bernie sanders has a new plan to stop corporate tax dodgers. >> corporations are people, my friend. >> the senator unveils his new bill here tonight. >>> plus, someone actually made the paul harvey farmer ad better. >>> and governor chris christie wants everyone to shut up about his weight. >> shut up. >> tonight, reverend al sharpton is here to giv
the obama administration's policy of targeting americans comes under attack on capitol hill. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. >> the president's pick for cia takes a grilling over the targeted killings of american citizens. >> people are reacting to a lot of falsehoods that are out there. >> reporter: tonight, the man who broke this story, michael eyes...
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new revelations about the obama administration's controversial use of drone strikes are expected to be central topic in the confirmation hearing for tomorrow. they obtained and argue that government can kill americans believed to be top al qaeda leader who is pose an imminent threat to the united states. the senator hinned at a possible filibuster of the confirmation saying he will pull out all the stops to get the analysis. house intelligence chairman told andrea mitchell he is behind the program. >> the legal basis of this goes back many, many years. what they were saying is once you made that choice, you no longer get the protects you would. if you joined the enemy overseas, you joined the enemy. >> joining me live, editor do min coe, you noted that this may actually be an issue of more democrats coming out and expressing their dissatisfaction with the drone program and that was earlier saying he is completely fine with the program. >> right. you heard them earlier today say at the democratic retreat in annapolis he would keep all options on the table about what to do about the nomi
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a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a ranking al qaeda figure. who, the target pose an imminent threat of violent attack against the u.s., and, three, that the targets capture is not feasible. all of those seem like terms that are open to pretty broad interpretation. >> that's exactly right, alex. i think one of the things that is most troubling and remarkable about this memo are that what appear to be restrictions on the first page of the memo become permissions by the end of it when you start reading how they're defined. take imindependence, for example. the administration says that it can only target people who are an imminent threat, bu
a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a...
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and you look at this memo, which is an obama administration memo. first of all, you read it in its entirety. people can go on dotcom. it's really hard to see anything there that's -- that relates to operational security. it's not classified. it's purely legal arguments. so why has it taken until now for us to get a copy of it and let the public read it? >> we know for sure the memo was written by the justice department. we assume inside the olc, the office of legal counsel. that's what we believe. >> the sequence of events, as i understand them is this. members of congress, pat leahy, others, were demanding to see the olc memos on targeted killing of americans. >> jane harman who was in the house intelligence committee saying she was stunned more hadn't been demanding this. say they'd asked during the bush years for olc memos. >> democrats were not nearly as loud on this subject as they were during the bush years, but they were asking for them. and so what the justice department did was say, okay, we're not going to give you the olc memos because we
and you look at this memo, which is an obama administration memo. first of all, you read it in its entirety. people can go on dotcom. it's really hard to see anything there that's -- that relates to operational security. it's not classified. it's purely legal arguments. so why has it taken until now for us to get a copy of it and let the public read it? >> we know for sure the memo was written by the justice department. we assume inside the olc, the office of legal counsel. that's what we...
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the obama administration today announcing they're going after some of the people allegedly involved in the 2007 financial meltdown. sounds like a lot to do all at once, right? yes. and it's part of the strategy. it's what nbc's first read calls flooding the zone. pushing many issues so the gop can't come together and oppose any single one. and there are already hopeful signs this president is going to get some important progress on key issues. joining me now is james peterson and molly ball. thanks to both of you for your time. >> good to be here. >> thanks. >> molly, you recently wrote about the washington gridlock. the headline reads "is washington getting less dysfunctional?" and i'm quoting from the article. from immigration reform to the debt ceiling, there are rampant signs the capitol isn't the gridlocked mess to which we've become accustomed. is there really a light at the end of the tunnel? i mean, how is this shifting? >> well, the jury's still out. when i wrote that piece i had a lot of people say you're going to jinx it. don't tell anyone. things are working around here. i
the obama administration today announcing they're going after some of the people allegedly involved in the 2007 financial meltdown. sounds like a lot to do all at once, right? yes. and it's part of the strategy. it's what nbc's first read calls flooding the zone. pushing many issues so the gop can't come together and oppose any single one. and there are already hopeful signs this president is going to get some important progress on key issues. joining me now is james peterson and molly ball....
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. >>> just moments ago, senator lindsey graham released a statement, asking the obama administration to reconsider nominating chuck hagel for secretary of defense. still, hagel will probably be confirmed. yesterday, senator john mccain said he will not support a filibuster of his former senate colleague and democrats appear to have at least 57 votes to confirm hagel, including two republicans. first kid you ready? [ female announcer ] second kid by their second kid, every mom is an expert and more likely to choose luvs. after thousands of diaper changes, they know what works. luvs lock away wetness better than huggies for a fraction of the cost live, learn, & get luvs. for a fraction of the cost when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost.. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership. >>> the politics now, where hillary clinton launched a new website,
. >>> just moments ago, senator lindsey graham released a statement, asking the obama administration to reconsider nominating chuck hagel for secretary of defense. still, hagel will probably be confirmed. yesterday, senator john mccain said he will not support a filibuster of his former senate colleague and democrats appear to have at least 57 votes to confirm hagel, including two republicans. first kid you ready? [ female announcer ] second kid by their second kid, every mom is an...
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in it, obama administration lawyers argue the government can kill americans believed to be top taliban leaders posing, quote, an imminent threat of attack against the united states. >> we have acknowledged the united states that sometimes we use remotely piloted aircraft to conduct targeted strikes against specific al qaeda terrorists to prevent attacks on the united states and to save american lives. we conduct those strikes because they're necessary to mitigate ongoing actual threats, to stop plots, prevent future attacks and save american lives. the strikes are legal, ethical an wise. >> but as expected, the memo coming under fire from civil rights activists because of how broadly imminent threat is defined. quote, the condition that an operational leader present an imminent threat of violent attack against the united states does not require the united states to have clear evidence that a specific attack on u.s. persons and interests will take place in the immediate future. now, the memo also has new details on legal case behind more drone strikes against al qaeda suspects. such as
in it, obama administration lawyers argue the government can kill americans believed to be top taliban leaders posing, quote, an imminent threat of attack against the united states. >> we have acknowledged the united states that sometimes we use remotely piloted aircraft to conduct targeted strikes against specific al qaeda terrorists to prevent attacks on the united states and to save american lives. we conduct those strikes because they're necessary to mitigate ongoing actual threats,...
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we're going to have new administrations, and obama has kind of solidified what bush and cheney put into place and that's going to be in the hands of other administrations in the future, and david is right. there are no checks on this. if this is so ethical, it's so wise, and it's so legal, then why don't you be honest and open about it and tell congress what you're doing so at least they can do it even if you're going to keep the people in the dark. >> thank you, gentlemen. >>> coming up, at least some members of congress are looking for bipartisan solutions on gun safety. yes, they are. stay with us. [ woman ] if you have the audacity to believe your financial advisor should focus on your long-term goals, not their short-term agenda. [ male announcer ] join the nearly 7 million investors who think like you do. face time and think time make a difference. at edward jones, it's how we make sense of investing. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan.
we're going to have new administrations, and obama has kind of solidified what bush and cheney put into place and that's going to be in the hands of other administrations in the future, and david is right. there are no checks on this. if this is so ethical, it's so wise, and it's so legal, then why don't you be honest and open about it and tell congress what you're doing so at least they can do it even if you're going to keep the people in the dark. >> thank you, gentlemen. >>>...
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obama has protected 2.6 million acres which is less than ronald reagan, george h.w. bush, bill clinton and george w. bush. interesting these picks. we'll nominate brennan and we'll nominate sally jewell and whether there's actually going to be a substantive discussion about energy, climate issues and also national security policy remains to be d. on that very thoughtful note, i will leave the program. thank you to rick, john, maggie and hugo and don't forget to pick up john's book, thomas jefferson, the art of power. that's all for now. i'll see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern 9:00 a.m. pacific when i'm joined by sam stein, michael haney and the aclu. you can find us on facebook. andrea mitchell reports is coming up next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 when i'm trading, i'm totally focused. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and the streetsmart edge trading platform from charles schwab... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 gives me tools that help me find opportunities more easily. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can even access it from the cloud and trade on any computer. tdd#: 1-800-
obama has protected 2.6 million acres which is less than ronald reagan, george h.w. bush, bill clinton and george w. bush. interesting these picks. we'll nominate brennan and we'll nominate sally jewell and whether there's actually going to be a substantive discussion about energy, climate issues and also national security policy remains to be d. on that very thoughtful note, i will leave the program. thank you to rick, john, maggie and hugo and don't forget to pick up john's book, thomas...
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the obama administration's shadow program of targeted killings got exposure this week right her. michael isikoff reporting the story here on msnbc. isikoff obtained the government document that lays out the legal arguments to justify the use of drones to kill al qaeda suspects including at times american citizens. i want to go ahead and take a reality check now and the government's the mostly secret drone program until now. joining me now, vicki duval, former general council on intelligence committee and former deputy legal adviser to the cia's counterterrorism center and kevin williamson, deputy manager of the national review. thanks so much for both of you being here. reality check here. >> polls show most americans have very little problem using drones against citizens turned terrorists. here it is right here. 79% of people approve using drones against americans overseas who are suspected of plotting terrorist attacks. what does this is a about us, kevin? >> well, it says that voters aren't to be trusted, but we knew that already. you can put the word terrorist in front of any
the obama administration's shadow program of targeted killings got exposure this week right her. michael isikoff reporting the story here on msnbc. isikoff obtained the government document that lays out the legal arguments to justify the use of drones to kill al qaeda suspects including at times american citizens. i want to go ahead and take a reality check now and the government's the mostly secret drone program until now. joining me now, vicki duval, former general council on intelligence...
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but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so of an informed high level official of the u.s. government. so maybe that's the president, but maybe that's somebody else. michael isikoff's scoop ended up at "the new york times" today and "the washington post" and "the hill" and slate and salon and ap to name a few. it was everywhere. and then at a press conference today, the attorney general was asked about it. >> last night nbc reported a white paper that was prepared by the justice department undated, unsigned about the legal -- the legal pinnacles for targeting americans overseas. could you please give us what the precise definition is and how that would be carried out? >> well, there have been a series of speeches that i gave, jay johnson gave, john brennan
but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so of an informed high level official of the u.s. government. so maybe that's the president, but maybe that's somebody...
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i'm not going to call you a cynic or anything here, but do you think the obama administration knows neither side will really question them on drones. so they really have no reason to answer the critics. >> alex, one woman's cynicism is another man's realism. you hang around with these guys long enough, you get a bit cynical about it. i don't want to caterwaul about this too much, to paraphrase rand paul. a lot of what's going on is classified. these things happen in private sessions. the public can't know xwakly what's going on here. it may be that the administration is more forthcoming about this than we know in the public. it does seem clear, if this were a different administration, say, there may be a lot more noise going on. you would expect more civil liberties objections from the democrats on this, just as they had been for the warrantless wiretapping during the bush administration. it's really surprising that both sides are so quiet about this when it's really quite a potentially alarming thing that the public doesn't know about. >> you mentioned the bush administration. lauren, "new
i'm not going to call you a cynic or anything here, but do you think the obama administration knows neither side will really question them on drones. so they really have no reason to answer the critics. >> alex, one woman's cynicism is another man's realism. you hang around with these guys long enough, you get a bit cynical about it. i don't want to caterwaul about this too much, to paraphrase rand paul. a lot of what's going on is classified. these things happen in private sessions. the...
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now a bipartisan group of 11 senators has written to president obama asking him to release about what is still secret about why the president and the administration think it is legal to kill americans this way. quote, it is vitally for congress and the american public to have a full understanding of how the executive branch interprets the limits and bound relatives this authority so that congress and the public can decide whether this authority has been properly defined and whether the president's power to deliberately kill american citizens is subject to appropriate limitations and safeguards. honestly, in the real world, particularly in the real political world, there is some compunction, but very little compunction about the president using extreme counterterrorism measures. the president using lethal force against bad guys. in the case against the american whose killing seems to have inspired a lot of the secret legal reasoning, the case against anwar al awlaki doesn't seem to tug at the heart strings. adds a senior recruiter for al qaeda he was associated with the mass shooting a
now a bipartisan group of 11 senators has written to president obama asking him to release about what is still secret about why the president and the administration think it is legal to kill americans this way. quote, it is vitally for congress and the american public to have a full understanding of how the executive branch interprets the limits and bound relatives this authority so that congress and the public can decide whether this authority has been properly defined and whether the...
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has said that indicates they're going to have a universal registry. >> and obama care wasn't a tax until they needed it to be a tax, was it? >> it was the supreme court that said that. >> let's get to our panel now. mark glaze is the director of mayors against illegal guns which is responsible for that super bowl ad. and michael eric dyson is a professor at georgetown university and an msnbc political analyst. thank you both for joining us. mark, it's almost two months since that horrific shooting at sandy hook elementary school. and it seems as though we started the conversation by considering every gun safety initiative from assault weapons bans to restricting gun capacity -- the capacity of gun magazines, yet now the nra says even background checks are worthless, so is that it? is that the end of the discussion? >> well, i don't think the nra marks the end of the discussion. i think it marks the beginning of the discussion. you know, you have this unusual period of time where the public is really focused on this, including the president, 850 mayors and police officers which you saw to
has said that indicates they're going to have a universal registry. >> and obama care wasn't a tax until they needed it to be a tax, was it? >> it was the supreme court that said that. >> let's get to our panel now. mark glaze is the director of mayors against illegal guns which is responsible for that super bowl ad. and michael eric dyson is a professor at georgetown university and an msnbc political analyst. thank you both for joining us. mark, it's almost two months since...
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it's also a question i think as this administration, the obama administration has done, of expanding it to include wounded soldiers and looking at ways that we can support even more veterans, so in the same way that president clinton had to look at the times when we were in office, we have to examine these new times when the reality is people are working longer and harder, and it's difficult to access the law so we need to ask ourselves what we can do differently. >> 20-year anniversary of fmla, can you believe that 1993 seems like just yesterday? why do you think this law is so important? >> the reason president clinton has people tell him it's appreciated, 100 million families have used it, 14,000 in 2011. this is a law that affect all strata of american society. the problem we have and mika has written about this in national memo is we're far behind other countries in this. far behind when it was passed and far behind the benefits -- >> how is in a? how are we behind? >> other countries have paid leave. they have paid leave for dads as well as moms when a pregnancy is -- a baby is
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why do you think president obama's adopted some of the bush administration's approaches to counterterrorism? >> well, you know, i'm not sure i see the parallel to the extent that this article implies. i think obama's been extremely careful in circumscribing the use of force. we made mistakes in the bush era at first, arrested u.s. citizens, held them, we made some mistakes, torture being the worst of the lot. so, i think the obama team's been mindful of that. they're trying to be careful. but at the end of the day, better you take soldiers out of afghanistan and iraq and allow the agency and the fbi to operate overseas. so, again, we ought to be careful. don't circumscribe the ability of the president of the united states to keep us safe, but do have congressional oversight. >> general barry mccaffrey, we will leave it there. thank you. appreciate your time, as always. >> good to be with you. >>> just ahead, gabby giffords' new purpose and what she's willing to do to reduce gun violence in this country. >>> and the other kerry that works in washington, d.c. is there a sibling rivalry in the
why do you think president obama's adopted some of the bush administration's approaches to counterterrorism? >> well, you know, i'm not sure i see the parallel to the extent that this article implies. i think obama's been extremely careful in circumscribing the use of force. we made mistakes in the bush era at first, arrested u.s. citizens, held them, we made some mistakes, torture being the worst of the lot. so, i think the obama team's been mindful of that. they're trying to be careful....